one doesn’t sense in Kant’s writings that this meant that he thought we couldn’t know about things in the world outside the mind. Though no one could know noumena, neither Kant nor other thinkers of his time thought that humans have little hope of knowing phenomena and of agreeing with others about what they were experiencing. Hence, even with the Kantian position that mind and object are active in relation to each other, the basic view seemed to be that the data of the world come into the mind basically